Questions to the GBC

To,

The GBC People!

Can any one in this world imagine distributing food for just 1,000 people for just one day? But ISKCON Bangalore is doing this in a massive way, every day by distributing to 1 million souls. And they are not distributing just food, but prasadam. This was the dream of Srila Prabhupada. And you all are trying to stop it.

Stopping philanthropic activity of food distribution itself leads one to the hellish planets. And just imagine if one tries to stop the prasadam distribution, where that man will be put into. Only Krishna knows!

Lord Krishna gave off His entire army to Kauravas. Just one Krishna was on the side of Pandavas. Similarly Srila Prabhupada’s brands are all there with GBC, including “Food for Life”. What is the score of that today? If you want to beat Akshaya Patra, distribute Krishna prasadam to 2 million souls a day. That is your real guts, even materially and spiritually!

In a running race, many people run. The best runner progresses first. Rest all try their best. But they do not pull the first person’s leg and try to ground him. This is not done even on material platform. But what are you doing?

So you have already stolen all brands created by Srila Prabhupada in the name of “Gurus”. Its ok. So try to bring them up. Show your guts or dhamm or Krishna Bhakti to lead it (or even just to preserve it). Or else keep quite. Don’t try to pull who are running first.

There are two kinds of people supporting the GBC and present in the GBC:

1) Unknowingly and innocently, misled and trapped souls.
2) Souls to plunder or loot the money and/or gain fame by becoming guru in the name of ISKCON.

If you belong to category 1 and believe your guru system is correct, then boast your guru and spread your guru all over the world. No issues. We don’t care and interfere. But why do you want to come and interfere us? What is the reason? If you believe something, then follow yours! WHY ARE YOU DISTURBING US? We are not doing anything in the name of “Food for Life”. We are aloof and doing some good thing in the name of Akshaya Patra, which causes no where disturbances to you!

If you belong to category 2, as a Karmi I am saying this, do not loot, not only in the name of ISCKON, but in any spirituality’s name. Go and loot directly the banks, companies or start finance companies and cheat. But don’t do this in the name of ISKCON or in any other religion’s name. The reason is very simple. You are not only looting, but shaking the faith of others. Imagine what will be the faith of neophyte devotees if you do like this? They loose faith on ISKCON actually. Not on you!

This I am writing out of pain, after hearing about our temple devotees and few so-called “our boys”, on whom we had great esteem, were actually spying low-classly inside our ISKCON Bangalore. They were all caught red-handedly! It was also shocking for me that how can their consciousness be so third class, lesser than chandalas’, to create dirty blogs, with vulgar words! When my parents (who were also following Krishna consciousness) who heard this news, they said, “If there are people like this in ISKCON itself, whom to trust and whom not to trust in this world?” The faith shakes! Beware GBC!!! Krishna will not forgive you!!!

Again and again I am repeating, if you feel your guru system is correct, go ahead. We don’t interfere! But don’t meddle with us (ISKCON Bangalore) and spoil others’ life, by destroying the neophytes’ faith! Krishna will not leave you! Krishna will not let you! Krishna will not forgive you!

Finally, the books of Srila Prabhupada are so strong that even shaking faith of my family, by His will and Srila Prabhupada’s mercy, the one verse of Bhagavad-gita restored them to their original position on the same day. Hare Krishna!

– Balaji. A.

A Letter to IBDA editor

Dear Editor of the IBDA blog,

In your response to Mr Row ( Grind your teeth on this) you have admitted that “That ISKCON had a problem with the Gurus is too well known”. However you make it sound as if all those Guru problems are all solved.

But you & I know that the problem with the gurus is far from over. In fact, it is precisely this problem that drove Madhu Pandit Das to do what he did. If the IBDA is really desirous of a unified ISKCON then it must do something about the mess-ups in ISKCON. The question is “what is IBDA doing about this issue?” Given the enthusiasm against Madhu Pandit Das and his associates, I presume IBDA is also working with similar gusto on this issue too. In fact I can tell you that if you solve that issue, Madhu Pandit Das and his associates will be glad to rejoin ISKCON. But as along as nothing is done about that, how can you expect them to join in especially as it was this that drove them out?

Having said so much I must inform you that I am not from the HK Hill. I am an independent observer who has nothing to gain either way. In fact, I am of the opinion that ISKCON Karnataka’s break away was probably not the right thing to do but given the options they had it was probably the only thing they could do when faced with expulsions back in 2001. But I also think its time ISKCON asked itself why did a star Guruvadi devotees like Madhu Pandit and his associates do what they did? Its time ISKCON put its own house in order so that independent thinking and bold devotee do not have to repeat his ordeal. The main issue is that unsolved Guru Issue. It will do even more damage to ISKCON as it is unchecked.

You have also said in previous posts that Ritviks in ISKCON enjoy good posts & are more than tolerated. So then why do they still have a resolution that the Ritvik system is a ‘deviant system that can, if practiced attract an expulsion from ISKCON?’

The IBDA members were once proud Ritviks. Have you all given up your stance on that issue in that other camp? I don’t think so. Deep inside you all know where the real problem lies.

Hundreds of devotees attracted by Srila Prabhupada’s books and movement join ISKCON only to be used as sources of money and free work for their ‘gurus’. Gurus in ISKCON do not have to report the Dakshina & donations they collect among other things. Accountability with respect to Gurudakshina & other donations to gurus simple DO NOT exist in ISKCON.

The GBC has not asked for such an accountability. Why? Because the GBC is mostly made up of gurus! If you add up all the money that flows into the hands of the present gurus, it runs into millions and would put the allegations against the Akshayapatra sound silly. All this is money that should have gone into ISKCON’s preaching activities. Not for flats, plush accommodation, luxury cars, first class air tickets and so on for gurus. Who audits these?

Perhaps a blog called GBC .com as in “Guru Bandits & Con-men.com?” Please take this suggestion positively and take on the role of reforming ISKCON as a whole. And why not? You guys have the numbers, the means and the readership as demonstrated here in this IBDA blog.

Besides why do these gurus not realize that its Srila Prabhupada’s books that attracted these devotees to ISKCON? Instead they compete with each other to get more disciples. They even have poaching problems. In my opinion the Gurus have done worse than Madhu Pandit Das as they have usurped ISKCON from within the movement. I would say that is a lot clever than what MPD has done. Without court cases and lawyers, without being branded deviant and without being harassed these gurus have each craved out their own little kingdoms within ISKCON with their own band of fan-disciples and their own agendas, books & lectures replacing Srila Prabhupadas preaching. Who can deny this? Who can ask for more?

Is ISKCON united? No way! Each temple is some guru’s private domain except for the big ones. And in big temples there is no unity or common goal. Disciples of each guru have their own agendas. ISKCON has become a collective conglomeration of each guru’s private plans for their well being. As a result ISKCON is without common goals or definite goals. There must be a definite mission statement and specific targets to be achieved within set time frames. The US yatra is in a mess. What are the remedial measures being taken to revive it? Karmi companies that went down are known to have restructured themselves and changed to suit the times to bounce back into being big cooperates once again. ISKCON has this great brand equity in US even today. But is the GBC planning to revive that again or have they just resigned themselves to the down-slide?

I am for both the ISKCON merging having ironed out most of the major differences keeping what Srila Prabhupada wants in mind. Setting aside all the anger and rage for each other, I still think there is hope for a cool headed talk and some agreements to be forged out. I can see that the fire works from both sides will take a few more months to subside. But after the smoke clears, I think both sides will see that its Srila Prabhupada who is hurt & the most damaged. A little give-and-take can go a long way to solving this unless of course both sides are as immature as street urchins in a brawl.

Hare Krsna

an ex-devotee

Why I had to leave ISKCON Bangalore-Msg to FOLK friends

Respected Prabhus, Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!!! Hare Krishna!!!

I have been going through blogs regarding ISKCON websites for some days, and thought of writing this letter. Srila Prabhupada would say many a times, that whenever the devotees preaching are successful, the demons would become more and more destructive. This also happened in the case of brainwashing case in USA in 1976-1977. More we see demons getting furious at the preaching work of devotees, more they invite their fall down or death closer.

How will Lord Krishna and Srila Prabhupada spare those who are just blindly being guided by devotees who are just after properties and women? IBDA website is just full of non-authentic, baseless allegations against senior management of Hare Krishna Hill devotees. Many of us have a feeling that all these stories have been cooked up by fallout devotees just to shake the faith of young FOLK devotees.

The anti-ISKCON Bangalore group has not done any preaching and are poaching on the young devotees who have been inspired from Hare Krishna Hill youth programs, just to shake their delicate faith. It is my open appeal to all my FOLK friends that do not associate with anti-ISKCON Bangalore group devotees. Srila Prabhupada forbade his disciples not to associate with all those groups of Gaudiya Matha camps who were envious of him. It’s not that Srila Prabhupada was against them, but to save the bhakti-lata creeper of his disciples. ISKCON Bangalore is a great organization, which is getting purer and purer as time is passing by and as they are learning more and more about Srila Prabhupada’s instruction about running a worldwide organization. We have seen this change ourselves.

I was serving ISKCON Bangalore few years back, and things have wonderfully changed in these years. The newer devotees are full of energy and under purer guidance by the senior management of Hare Krishna Hill. It obviously takes time to learn from the past mistakes and rectify them when you are running a big organization. When the Hare Krishna Hill was under HH Jayapataka Maharaja, there were some malpractices, being carried out under Guru’s approval.

Obviously these guru themselves were bogus, so were their malpractices. So it took sometime to things to take a proper shape in ISKCON Bangalore at Hare Krishna Hill. Many of the devotees who were under mode of ignorance and passion left criticizing the temple authorities, but they could not understand the practical mood of senior management regarding preaching at the same time defending the Hare Krishna Hill devotees against the bogus gurus. We, as new generation devotees at Hare Krishna Hill (those who had been coming in touch with Srila Prabhupada after 1999), were brought up in a purer environment, and were carefully protected from the outside world of envious people who were dressed in saffron but wanted to imitate the position and power of Srila Prabhupada.

I request all the devotees to approach the post-1999 devotees and ask them about the culture of ISKCON Bangalore at Hare Krishna Hill, and you will understand by yourself how the potency of accepting Srila Prabhupada as the sole diksha guru of ISKCON works. It’s the Srila Prabhupada magic which is working. There are so many pre-1999 devotees around the place who will tell you so many stories of Temple building and telling stories of knowing Madhu Pandit Prabhu personally, they never knew his mood even though they may have been personally close to him.

Madhu Pandit Prabhu has taken an unprecedented step of re-establishing Srila Prabhupada as the sole acharya of ISKCON. Many of you may say that Lord Krishna or Srila Prabhupada themselves would rectify the problems in ISKCON, but then I ask one question. Are we supposed to just sit down and not make efforts for doing some service for Srila Prabhupada? Madhu Pandit Prabhu is a great person and a very capable as far as management of a big organization is concerned. He is soft at heart, yet bold enough to take steps to rectify devotee’s mistakes. Just to give you an example, I myself was asked to go alongwith my parents from the temple as I was shouting on the devotees (that was the biggest mistake in my life). Had I not been removed from temple, I would have created so many Vaishanva aparadhas against sincere Vaishnavas and would have suffered more and more in this life and as well as in coming ones. So, Madhu Pandit Prabhu saved me by punishing me. And I know of so many of pre-1999 devotees who also left temple, but it all happened for their own good. I would not like to take their personal names, but none of us who left the temple were purer than others who were inside.

The other camp people would cook up so many stories against our temple management. What to say about Radhey Shayam Prabhu and other devotees at ISKCON Pune? I had to hear nonsense blasphemy against Hare Krishna management for hours together. While on the train, Vibhava Krishna Prabhu spoke so many things irrelevantly about Madhu Pandit Prabhu. Believe me, all these people are blinded by their bogus gurus, who shower them with nonsensical blessings and praise for destroying the preaching activities at Hare Krishna Hill.

And people are so crazy that they want living Guru. Srila Prabhupada’s vani is enough for us, as he desired in July 1977? Now these people, after becoming crazy after living guru, after some time they will become crazy by asking for living KRSNA. I pray to all my FOLK friends not to get deviated from pure path of Krishna Consciousness by following full-heartedly the Srila Prabhupada’s instructions.

If you associate with those who are envious of Hare Krishna Hill management, you might also have to give up the golden opportunity of serving sincere Vaishnavas, Srila Prabhupada, Sri Sri Nitai Gauranga and Sri Sri Radha Krishna-chandra. Remember this will not happen by getting punished by senior devotees, but subtly by Srila Prabhupada and Paramatma. So I request you all not to disobey the valuable advice of seniors at Hare Krishna Hill. Please become devotees and disciples of Srila Prabhupada. Being direct disciples of Srila Prabhupada is not a monopoly of those who were born before 1978, but for every sincere soul who wishes to follow Srila Prabhupada’s orders till the end of Golden Age of Sankirtana in this Kali Yuga.

Hari Bol.

Your servant,

Bhakta Aniruddha.

GBCs are Racist and Envious

BY: JNANA-NETRA DASA

The GBC Executive Committee in their article, “Answer to Madhu Pandita Prabhu” writes:

“The multiple legal suits you have brought against ISKCON amounts to an explicit attempt to get control of assets which loyal faithful ISKCON devotees have contributed. This is our issue with you, and this is the issue we are more than prepared to discuss.”

GBCs are trying to project a picture that this is a fight between Madhu Pandita Prabhu and the GBC. There are a few questions here. What about the role and desires of other devotees of Bangalore temple? Could Madhu Pandita Prabhu fight with the GBC without their support and cooperation? It is not only Madhu Pandita Prabhu, but the majority of ISKCON Bangalore devotees disliked the GBC and revolted against them. And the bogus Guru system was also a reason for that.

The GBC is a gang who wants to control the life of each and every individual of ISKCON. This gang seems to believe that they are the most qualified and most important people present on the earth. There is no one equal to or greater than them, though outwardly this gang acts like humble people. I personally have experienced one of these gang members. I had a small disagreement with one of the GBCs of my area, and he made sure that I don’t survive in that temple. I could see the hidden animal in him. How much angry he was because of a tiny disagreement. One need not dig too deep, just scratch little bit on the surface and you will see the hidden animal behind saffron robes.

A group of Bangalore devotees, by the success of their Akshaya Patra programme and other preaching activities, have practically proven that by following the instructions of Srila Prabhupada, even ordinary devotees can do miracles. Miracles are not a monopoly of Gurus and GBC members only. This is a very practical demonstration and there are no other proofs required for that.

Another point is the role of H.H. Radhanatha Swami. Chowpatty temple is not a part of ISKCON, but still the GBC don’t say a word about it. Why so much fuss about Bangalore temple? Because Radhanatha is their gang member, in good understanding with them, there is no problem if he keeps Chowpatty temple for himself, separate from the control of ISKCON.

This gang called the GBC cannot tolerate how someone who is not a part of their club can do so much preaching. I am more than 100% confident that if Madhu Pandita Prabhu would have a White body like Radhanatha Swami has, he would have much less problem with the GBC than what he has now. This present GBC body is very envious and racist. Many Indian devotees who have nothing to do with the Bangalore conflict have expressed to me their feelings of being racially discriminated against by ISKCON authorities.

I will end my article with a small story. Once Narada Muni, while travelling on planet earth, came across an old hunchback woman. He felt very kind towards this woman and wanted to fix her back as a boon to her. So he said to the lady, O Mother, I am very much pleased with you, come here and I will fix your back. The old lady replied ” O Great Sage, if you are really pleased with me and want to give me some boon, please give me a different boon. Surprised Narada Muni asked, “What boon would you like to have”. The old lady replied, “The lady who lives next door to me, please make her also a hunchback.

I do not know the source of this story, neither do I know how bona fide it is. One old sadhu told me this story in Vrindavana, when I visited Holy Dhama. He told me this story as an answer to my question, “what is enviousness”?

Bangalore devotees are doing great preaching, so I request the GBC to please stop their envious attacks like blocking land allotments, etc. And please stop being racist.

They should lift their standards and do something so that the government feels like awarding them, as well. That will be beneficial for thewhole society.

Hare Krsna.

Jnana-Netra dasa

A Response from LA to personal criticisms on BDA websites

Hare Krishna! All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.

You are yet another envious demon resorting to inventing silly stories exposing a cheap karmi mentality as well as a total lack of intelligence, in an attempt to debase a heroic Vaishnava, Madhu Pandit Prabhu. Yours are the words of a fool, a rascal, and a liar.

If someone is feeding Krishna prasadam to 1,000,000 children per day, namely Madhu Pandit Prabhu, can you say that you are doing better in that regard? Are you feeding 100,000? 50,000? 20,000 impoverished Indian children? And what is wrong with engaging poor Vaishnavi ladies in preparing the bhoga to be offered to Lord Krishna? Do you think that ISKCON Food-For-Life uses only Pure Brahmins for preparing the relatively small amount of Prasad that they distribute to the public?

Here in Los Angeles at New Dwaraka, drug-addicted karmis trying for green cards are in the kitchen preparing food for the devotees and washing every single pot and pan between cigarette breaks while listening to Gangsta rap on their Ipods. My husband and I have seen the Akshaya Patra cooking facilities in Vrindavan, and not many ISKCON temple kitchens that prepare foodstuffs for the initiated devotees can boast a level of cleanliness that we saw in Vrindavan. Please, you tell us which is better.

Consider also the history-making event of Madhu Pandit Prabhu successfully instating Srila Prabhupada’s DIRECTION OF MANAGEMENT into the first 30 ISKCON temples ever, namely Bangalore, thereby setting a precedent for the entire rest of Srila Prabhupada’s Movement ISKCON. Do you dare to put yourself above such a person? There are so many other activities in which you could be humbly engaged, cultivating Pure, Unalloyed Love of Godhead, rather than producing this concocted refuse in your spare time.

In the interest of preventing a far more miserable condition in the future, why not take up chanting 16 rounds and surrendering yourself sincerely to Krishna? Such abominable acts as these which you and your cohorts are committing against a first class devotee, Madhu Pandit das, do not go unnoticed by the court of Yamaraja upon death. Why not turn over a new leaf? The time for change is now.

In eternal service to Srila Prabhupada,

Roupa Manjari devi dasi

Clarifications on SHKMS-Hyderabad

BY: ADHOKSHAJA DASA

This article is in response to the posting of March 5th on Sampradaya Sun “ISKCON to Take Legal Action against SHKMS.” ISKCON South India Divisional Council Chairman and ISKCON Hyderabad President, Vedanta Chaitanya das, has irresponsibly and in a state of frenzy aired many baseless accusations. This particular act comes as no surprise, as he is known for high-handed decisions and raising false charges against devotees. He has time and again proved to be a very good attack dog of the Bogus unauthorized guru regime of ISKCON.

I have served in Hyderabad temple from 2003 to 2005 under his leadership, and have first-hand experience of working with him. I wish to clarify some of the issues raised by him. My wish is to clarify so that the readers are not misled.

What is SHKMS?

SHKMS is the Sri Hare Krishna Movement Society, which is as affiliate of ISKCON Bangalore (regd 1978). It is an independent society governed by its own board. The governing body consists of some senior full-time devotees of ISKCON Bangalore Group, like Madhupandit dasa, Chanchalapathi dasa, Stoka Krishna dasa, Chitranga Chaitanya dasa and others.

Under its banner we have various centers all over India. The Hare Krishna Movement already has independent centers in Chennai, Jaipur, Delhi, Mumbai, Vrindavan, Tirupathi Ahemadabad, Puri, Hyderabad and Vishakhapatnam. Apart from this there are many centers in Karnataka which are associated with it. HKM centre was recently opened in Hyderabad and has been functioning for the past 6 months at the following address: No 12-71-1, Sri Krishna Nilayam, Shanti Nagar, Patancheruvu, Hyderabad-502319.

Under the auspices of HKM Hyderabad, Akshaya Patra programme is currently running and feeding prasadam to over 25,000 children everyday. This programme has been operational since October 2008. It is going to be scaled up to 40,000 children shortly. There are plans to scale the program to over a lakh of children.

Recently, the Government of Andhra Pradesh, through its Endowments department, allotted 5 acres of land to HKM, Hyderabad. This sanction was given after seeing the activities of ISKCON Bangalore and its allied centers, especially the program of Akshaya Patra. So it is far from truth to say that SHKMS is a phony organization and its leaders are caught in a fraud network.

ISKCON Hyderabad – A Brief History

ISKCON has been in existence in Hyderabad for the past 3 decades. The temple has Sri Sri Radha Madan Mohan Deities personally installed by Srila Prabhupada. But the sad thing is that after the physical departure of His Divine Grace, the temple has made little progress. In fact, the temple has been riddled with factions and infighting ever since the bogus guru regime has taken over the temple. ISKCON as a movement is not respected very much in Hyderabad, for its reputation has been wiped out due to various nefarious activities of some of its past and present inmates. It has a very bad record in the eyes of the public. The life patrons are very much unhappy with the treatment meted out to them. Besides all thi,s the leaders of the temple are being changed very often.

It was earlier lead by Mahasundar dasa, Samba dasa, Srivatsa dasa, Vishwakeerthi, and Satya Gopinath dasa, and the list runs on and on. Vedanta Chaitanya was the recent addition to the list of leaders, but the state of the temple and its activities have not improved much. Vedanta Chaitanya is doing very little with respect to Book distribution and Prasadam distribution. The Hyderabad temple cleanliness is pitiable. Rats will be running in the kitchen. One Pujari does Arati in all the 3 altars during Rajabhog Arati, Balya bhog Arati and Shayana Arati. This is the standard in Hyderabad temple.

At least 9 devotees have left Hyderabad temple including myself, because of his lack of care for devotees and his monarchy. The devotees names are:

1. Krishnarchan dasa
2. Radhajivan dasa
3. Bhakta Raghavendra
4. Bhakta Venkat Reddy
5. Bhakta Prabhakar
6. Bhakta Venkat
7. Adhoksaja dasa (myself)
8. Sridhar Srinivas dasa
9. Sanatana Goswami dasa (a Russian devotee who single-handedly was carrying out book distribution in Hyderabad temple for quite some time)
10. Abhimanyu dasa
11. Uttam Madhava dasa
12. Narahari Thakur dasa

I think we should give a round of applause to Vedanta’s management “skills.”

Virtually no new devotees have joined the temple since I left Hyderabad and joined Bangalore temple. He is afraid that if more temple devotees join, his monarchy will be disturbed. He is selfishly enjoying the property and position in Hyderabad temple, which is in the heart of the city and was established personally by Srila Prabhupada. Most of the congregation members are also very much fried with his dictatorship. Preaching to public is almost nil. Recently congregational devotees, mostly disciples of Radhanath Maharaj and Bhakti Vikas Maharaj, have sent a long list of complaints to the GBC about Vedanta Chaitanya’s tyranny.

So in comparison with HKM and its allied centers, the contribution of ISKCON Hyderabad to missionary activities as envisioned by Srila Prabhupada is nothing. Why should they have any objection to someone establishing another temple when they are not able to carry on with their activities as Srila Prabhupada desired? It is no wonder that the government felt happy to allot land to HKM rather than allot the same to ISKCON Hyderabad.

What HKM did in 6 months could not be achieved by ISKCON and its “power packed” group of so-called gurus for the past three decades. They were busy with bogus guru regime glorification and group-ism. Even though the temple has very few devotees, it has that many numbers of groups. Even the congregation devotees are divided amongst the respective gurus. The congregation is having bitter fights with Vedanta Chaitanya since the time he took over as President.

Vedanta Chaitanya earlier was a very strong advocate of Srila Prabhupada being the only guru of ISKCON. Please see this article for evidence of the above. In that article you will find Vedanta questioning HH Jayapataka Swami on Srila Prabhupada’s Will.

Vedanta Chaitanya shifted his position to accepting the unauthorized guru camp in ISKCON for getting and maintaining the position of President of ISKCON Hyderabad. He is in strong cohorts with Romapada Swami who is defending him in spite of his various nefarious activities. I shall bring out a list of all those activities with evidence shortly, in another posting. But for the time being, I request the readers to go through this link, in which various devotees have expressed their feelings about Vedanta Chaitanya, Satya Gopinath, and other devotees linked with them.

It is very unfortunate that this very same Vedanta accuses Chanchalapathi Prabhu of stealing ISKCON Land in Bangalore. There cannot be a better example of people living in glass houses, throwing stones at others.

Contrary to Vedanta Chaitanya’s assertion, Chanchalapathi Prabhu has successfully led the ISKCON Bangalore Group of temples as its Vice President. All these temples are flourishing with over 300 full-time devotees and thousands of congregational members all over India. All of them vouch for his uprightness and know that he has not stolen any land in Bangalore. He has also stood up against the GBC and has not changed his stance that Srila Prabhupada is the only diksa guru for ISKCON, in spite of repeated threats from GBC.

The “stealing” which he is referring to is linked to the ongoing court case between ISKCON Bangalore (Reg 1978) and ISKCON Mumbai (Reg 1971). In this said case, the Honorable High Court of Karnataka, later endorsed by the Supreme Court of India, has given an interim order stating that the ISKCON Bangalore is indeed an independent legal society. I quote below the Order of the Honorable Judge of the High Court of Karnataka:

“On Consideration of the materials on record, I have come to the conclusion that the plaintiff [ISKCON Bangalore] which is a separate legal entity has produced materials which prima facie show that it has been in existence as a legal entity since more than 20 years and it has got right to maintain and administer its properties. […] The Plaintiff being a legal entity under the Karnataka Societies Registration Act has got its own bye-laws and it has got a Managing Committee to administer its properties and the defendants could not show that under the Karnataka Societies Registration Act, any action has been taken against the plaintiff or its members by the Registrar for any illegal activity etc.”
[Judgment of the Honorable Justice M. Farooq, 20/4/2002]

The fact that ISKCON Bangalore has the right to govern itself and not be under the bogus guru regime is being interpreted by the unauthorized gurus as stealing. Vedanta Chaitanya seems to have lost his independent discrimination and has become a blind follower of the bogus gurus, who think that all properties of Srila Prabhupada belong to them. Chaitanya and Satya Gopinath, being very good faithful dogs of the GBC, have resorted to airing the same views held by ISKCON Mumbai (Regd 1971) and its Bogus Diksa camp.

In fact, it is the Gurus who have unauthorisedly usurped the position of Srila Prabhupada as the sole guru of ISKCON. It is the GBC and its gurus who, through the medium of ISKCON Mumbai (Regd 1971), are enjoying the properties and disciples and their worship, which actually belongs to Srila Prabhupada. Thus stealing is done not by Chanchalapathi Prabhu or HKM, but by ISKCON Mumbai and its blind followers, like Vedanta Chaitanya, Satya Gopinath, and company. Prabhus, please be careful, for guru bhogis do not go far in their spiritual quest.

What is their problem if properties and preaching are managed by another set of devotees, with Srila Prabhupada as the center? What is their problem if it is independently and nicely managed? Is it that their hearts are lusting after the properties in which Srila Prabhupada is glorified in his true position? Why do they want to control the properties of ISKCON when they are not willing to acknowledge the true position of Srila Prabhupada? If they have a right to build temples and preach, then ISKCON Bangalore and HKM also have a right to build temples and preach, too. Mind you, HKM is an affiliate of ISKCON Bangalore (Regd 1978) and not ISKCON Mumbai (Regd 1971). If ISKCON Mumbai can open its branches and affiliates in places where ISKCON Bangalore has its centers, then by law of fairness, ISKCON Bangalore should also have a similar privilege.

Conclusion

It is very apt to quote the following letter of Srila Prabhupada in this context:

“…So why they are obstructing this program? What is the harm to them? … So what is their tangible objection?”
Srila Prabhupada Letter to Sripad B.R. Sridhara Maharaja, Los Angeles, 6 June, 1976.

In the above letter, Srila Prabhupada was requesting his godbrother B.R. Sridhara Maharaja to instruct some his own godbrothers, like Madhava and Damodar Maharajas, to stop their envious activities. This letter was sent in the context of Madhava and Damodar Maharajas trying their very best to obstruct allotment of lands in Mayapur to ISKCON.

ISKCON, under the leadership of the unauthorized gurus, has tried to their very best to stop all efforts centered around establishing Srila Prabhupada as the sole diksa guru of ISKCON. HKM is trying its best to build many centers in all major cities of India, with the understanding that Srila Prabhupada is the Acarya of the Hare Krishna Movement. The main feature of these HKM and other ISKCON Bangalore affiliated centers is that it is directly Srila Prabhupada centric. He is not a figurehead, as it is in the current ISKCON Mumbai (Regd 1971).

This attempt by ISKCON Hyderabad to mislead the press and other followers is a continuation of their agenda to put up as many road blocks as possible in establishing Srila Prabhupada centric temples. We can easily draw parallels between envious godbrothers of Srila Prabhupada like Madhava Maharaj and the current bogus ISKCON guru regime, which cannot do anything good but can only put obstacles on Srila Prabhupada centric efforts. What do they gain by putting obstacles before such efforts?

In my posting I am have not been happy in bringing out many personal criticisms of Vedanta Chaitanya and others, but in view of the ranting by them and in the context of some of the issues they have to brought out, it becomes necessary that some personal issues (like their management incapability, etc.) are put forth. This is done only with a view that the readers understand the real character of people who are making accusations. This will help the readers in clearly making out that Vedanta Chaitanya et al. are raising baseless allegations. Otherwise, the readers of their postings will be misled. With higher interest in mind, I had to mention some personal issues and I hope the readers it in that light. I personally have no grudge against them.

Your servant in the service of Srila Prabhupada,

Adhokshaja dasa

ISKCON BDA EXPOSED- Statement of ISKCON Bangalore GBC

By: Satya Gaura Chandra Das

Some FOLK devotees (Young college students) training at Hare Krishna Hill, Bangalore have come up with an article posted in some prominent blogs, one being jivahimsa that exposes the persons behind the defamatory tabloid websites run by the so-called ISKCON Bangalore Devotee Association or IBDA.

Intending to find the mysterious authors of these unscrupulous “crow-like” sites, one of the our godbrothers at ISKCON, HK Hill, Bangalore decided to investigate. He put up an act of being dissatisfied with the authorities at Hare Krishna Hill, and sought the sympathy of a FOLK member who was known to be working for the other camp. His efforts resulted in exposing the truth of the cyber defamation project masterminded by Doyaram Dasa (Temple President, ISKCON, KOLKATA- Branch of ISKCON, MUMBAI); Varada Krishna Dasa (Legal Head in Bangalore of ISKCON, MUMBAI)  designed to try to break the faith of devotees in their seniors at  ISKCON, Bangalore.

This they were doing to thereby  DESTROY the devotional service of the young devotees so as to make ISKCON Bangalore and Madhu Pandit Das materially “weaker”-an action often heard in connection of Hiranyakashipu, Kamsa etc. in the Srimad Bhagawatam.

We have filed a police case against these persons and the bloggers. Existing cyber laws enable us to sue them for the crime.

It is worth noting that VKD had vehemently stated in a email to Bhima Dasa of Mumbai that he had NO part in these issues, although he wished he did, and praised those who were doing it. Unfortunately for him, his man under the pen name, “77” (Rathish Raghupathy, working for Texas Instruments) confessed that some of these articles were written by him and another FOLK member, under the pen name “Yamaraj” ( Siddharth Gupta, working for SEAMAX), under the direct instigation of Doyaram Das and Varada Krishna Das. Ratish Raghupathy specifically confessed to have pasted the article titled “Madhu Pandit served meat and liquor on HK Hill” with the intention of breaking the faith of the temple devotees in the Temple Management and admitted that he “never saw nor had any proof” that such a thing ever happened at HK Hill.

This further proves the falsity of all the allegations lashed on different devotees of ISKCON–Bangalore from these tabloid sites.

How persons behind IBDA were exposed!!

An article by: Veerabhadra

Devotees, friends…there has been a remarkable turning point in the course of ISKCON Bangalore being victimized by a spate of defamation by IBDA! By the mercy of Srila Prabhupada and Lord Krishna, the culprits involved in this devious strategy were identified and they have confessed their involvement. The demoniac lie that meat and liquor was served on Hare Krishna Hill has been admitted by “77” to be a plot hatched by Varada Krishna Das and written on his personal instigation in order  to bring disrepute to the temple management and shake the faith of the supporters. Code words “77” and “Yamaraj” have been cracked. And behind these words have surfaced misled, derailed individuals who have lost their way on the path of Srila Prabhupada’s service.
The saying, “The man who raiseth the sword shall be killed by the sword,” is the most apt in this context. The malicious game players of the IBDA have now got a taste of their own medicine.
Swaggering with pride and overconfidence of their efforts to “extricate” devotees from ISKCON, Bangalore- they fell prey to their own pranks. Thus they got exposed./
Who are the articulate perpetrators?/ Were they influenced by some horrendous rogues in the garb of devotees who have no allegiance to Srila Prabhupada? /What was their strategy?/ …How wicked is VKD? How diabolic is DRD? What does the FOLK community of ISKCON Bangalore think about this?

IBDA GETS A TASTE OF ITS OWN MEDICINE

The IBDA has been systematically and viciously poisoning the minds of some of ISKCON Bangalore’s devotees, and thus draining them of their faith and allegiance to Srila   Prabhupada, and the war against untruth.

One of the sincere devotees volunteered to risk his life and dedicated several hours of tapasya to unearth this mafia operation. His efforts resulted in revealing their strategies.

Krishna is the Cheater of the cheaters. And He has proved so again to protect His devotees from the snares of the IBDA maya. Now they have got a taste of their own medicine.

HOW DID THE PACK OF HOOLIGANS GET EXPOSED

A devotee from Hare Krishna Hill approached the fortress of the enemies of Srila Prabhupada’s supporters and feigned that he was not satisfied with the authorities at Hare Krishna Hill. He sought an emotional shoulder with a suspicious character from that side who had penetrated the FOLK at HK Hill.
The latter preached to him of the greener grass on the other side. Soon, he took him to Varada Krishna Dasa – who instructed him further on the “anomalies” in ISKCON, Bangalore. The tape which contains the recording of that three hour long conversation is available.
In the course of this endeavor, information about their dirty strategies spilt out one by one.

WHO ARE THE ARTICULATE PERPETRATORS?

It was shocking to recognize these faces as the real authors of the nasty blogs filled with stinking untruth. They are all young college/ working men, trainees at HK Hill under the FOLK program, who have been simultaneously undergoing training by VKD to destroy the unity of the devotees on HK Hill.
The names that surfaced in the confessions as being the masterminds behind the diabolic strategies did not come as a surprise, since they have been know over the years as the unscrupulous thugs who have sworn to destroy Srila Prabhupada’s mission – none other than the low-class brains of Varada Krishna Dasa and Vaikuntha Gaur Dasa under the surreptitious leadership of Doyaram Dasa.

They are:

1) RATHISH- THE 77   [watch his confession at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl3Q4s7RL0I]

2) SIDDHARTH- THE YAMARAJ  [watch how Rathish exposes him at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LlKJ1sxy3c]

They have given an affidavit to state that they are the culprits.
The irony is that they were so blinded and brainwashed by VKD that they dared to state emphatically, things that were totally false, things they had not even seen, and made a hue and cry about them. For instance, Rathish revealed  that he had not even seen that ‘meat and wine’ were served, but simply followed VKD, to do what he had described in his blog. Later on, they admitted that they were influenced and instigated to write such demoniac untruths by VKD.

THE AFFIDAVIT

Read his affidavit below:

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To         1st March 2009

Sri Radha Kanta Dasa
Security Incharge,
ISKCON Temple,
Bangalore

Dear Prabhu,

Since you have questioned us about our involvement in the blog Madhu Bandit.info, we are voluntarily submitting our involvement before the group of devotees. I wrote several articles in the blog by false name of 77.

I was encouraged and asked to write defamatory articles in that manner by Varada Krishna Das and Doyaram Das of ISKCON, Mumbai. I also know that my friend Siddarth Gupta wrote in the false name “Yamaraj” in the blog.

I was made to get inside information from the temple at Rajajinagar regularly by Varada Krishna Das. I have also spoken various facts before the camera and the group of devotees. I am extremely sorry for such behaviour of ours and promise that I will never repeat such deplorable behaviour to break the faith of devotees of this ISKCON, Bangalore Temple by spreading hatred among them through defamatory statements made by me.
Thanking You,

Rathish Raghupathy

Witness

1. Manoj Nagaraj

2.  Rohith Kaushik

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MODUS OPERANDI

It is a fact that no organizational management, however sincere and committed, can satisfy every rank and file member. Despite the concern and care taken for all members, there are bound to be some negative elements.
The sinister gang trained by the IBDA placed a Trojan horse right in the midst of the aspiring devotee community at HK Hill. These nefarious energies plotted to shake the faith of those who felt they did not get a fair deal with the authorities, at some instance or the other. Thus they attempted to fan the sparks of dissent to try and turn it into a devastating forest fire.
They did not stop there. Everyone who was “confidentially” swept into their gang was told to remain aloof of all their “suffering god-brothers trapped on HK Hill.” Then they propagated a hyped version of their success in invading the temple. They boasted to the devotee who exposed the fraud, of a 30% success in destroying the temple from within.
In order to build confidence in the devotee who met them, they used the tactic of dropping the name of Kumara Dasa (name changed)- a senior devotee and a sincere supporter of the temple, and said that he was supposed to meet Varada Krishna Dasa, the day the devotee met him. The only reason his name was mentioned was to destabilize the unity of the devotees and to set one devotee against the other as suspicious candidates.
Thus Varada Krishna Dasa and Vaikuntha Gaur Dasa are systematically masterminding the plan to ruin ISKCON, Bangalore – from within.

HOW WICKED IS VKD (VARADA KRISHNA DASA)?

Varada Krishna Dasa corresponded (dated 13th Feb) with Bhima Dasa of ISKCON Mumbai that he had no part in, nor did he know, who the authors in IBDA blog were. However, the faces behind IBDA and their confessions reveal that this entire vicious, fabricated, maligning campaign is Vkd’s own dear baby.

How crooked he is. He keeps his own close associates in the dark about his nefarious activities. A lot of sugar coated word jugglery covers up his involvement in this filth. For instance, he told Bhima Dasa that honestly he was not involved in it, but  he wished he were! Who will trust this devious sadist? He subsists on wrecking the delicate bhakti creeper of sincere devotees who have surrendered their lives to the lotus feet of Srila Prabhupada. He spends his waking and sleeping hours munching on venomous plans to bring down the sincere service of serious, dedicated devotees. He dares to cross the line of morality and decency and fabricates sensational, cheap stories about women devotees. Only a man, a pervert, driven  by uncontrollable lust and insatiable carnal desires can utter such filth about devotees.

He is nothing less than WICKEDNESS (VKD!) PERSONIFIED.
HOW DIABOLIC IS DRD (DOYARAM DASA)?

Having fallen on his head on the way from heaven to distribute compassion to fallen mankind, this archangel of destruction is constantly inspired from Hell via his brain which relocated to his feet on his fall. Are the culprits in touch with him? Not directly, since he is the unapproachable, unseen Don who only interacts with his henchmen like VKD. It takes several “successful missions” to qualify to get a glimpse of him and be “blessed” by the recognition of this protector of the flawed guru system. DIABOLIC (DRD), the dear disciple of Jayapataka Swami, lost his sense of right and wrong when he crashed into the earth on his head, as aforementioned. So now his understanding is perverted; he talks of dharma but practices adharma. He talks of his loyalty to Srila Prabhupada but has been heard, for more than a couple of decades, to have declared his doubt even in Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswathi Thakura’s connection to the guru parampara! He is the ANTI TRUTH PERSONIFIED and his cold unscrupulousness is rivaled only by the Nazis.

WHAT DOES THE FOLK COMMUNITY SPEAK ABOUT THIS?

“We could perceive the hands of Lord Krishna throughout the session.”

“How could that Wicked liar claim that he did not know who wrote in the blogs?”

“Now our good days are ahead- we should just expose them and thus cut off their venomous fangs. Then alone can we spend our creative energy for the wonderful projects we have at hand. These projects are meant to satisfy the desires of Srila Prabhupada to extensively preach Krishna Consciousness. Unfortunately, we have to spend a lot of our time and energy to defend these negative forces which attempt to impede our services to Srila Prabhupada.”

“They claim to be the followers of Srila Prabhupada. But these cheaters do the greatest disservice to our spiritual master.”

“They use Srila Prabhupada’s name, property etc. to pursue their personal agendas.”

Woe to the vicious rogues who disguise themselves as devotees and spend their days meditating on means, however low and devious, to break the service to Srila Prabhupada, that the devotees on Hare Krishna Hill toil day and night to perform. Shame on them.

A Reply to SyamKrsna (alias Varada Krishna) Dasa

By Maha Purusha dasa

Hare Krishna Syamakrsna dasa, pamho, all glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Your recent article about H.G. Madhu Pandit dasa, found on your master’s tabloid website, has cemented your position in history as an authentic supporter of the ‘copy and paste’ guru lineage, which downloaded its connection to the paramapara via their envy for the bona-fide diksa guru, Srila Prabhupada. Unfortunately it came with a mayaic virus. Congratulations, you just won a vacation to the darkest place in the corner of the universe-pack lightly.

In your tabloid article, you ask why H.G. Madhu Pandit Dasa(MPD), didn’t make his ‘Peace proposal’ 10 years back. There are several reasons why, here are few:

In the beginning MPD was legitimately trying to work out the philosophical differences with the ‘GBC/gurus’. He was approaching the situation as a gentleman, something you and your master’s should try sometime.

1. After it was apparent that the‘Xerox guru lineage’ wasn’t going to obey Srila Prabhupada’s directives, MPD did his best to keep the name of Srila Prabhupada and ISKCON in a good light. Bringing this entire ‘struggle for truth’ to the public did not seem like the best thing for the ‘face’ of ISKCON.
2. If you carefully read MPD proposal you will see his ‘peace proposal’ extends past the court judgment date (February 28, 1009), by 24 days. That means win or lose his proposal is open for acceptance.

From MPP peace proposal:

“This offer is made whether we win or loose in the current court battle for control of Bangalore temple lest it be thought that this offer is made under pressure of losing and is open for minimum 45 days (only 24 days left for court verdict to come) and maximum as much as and if extended by us at the end of 45 days.”

The next thing Syamakrsna dasa conjures up from his one-sided and ill-motivated perspective, is that MPD beat up Varada Krsna dasa for ‘just’ coming to the temple for darshan, and that he had filed a false case against him. Actually what happened was VKD was regularly coming to the Bangalore temple to poison the devotees there, with lies about MPD. VKD had a falling out with MPD after the temple was built. VKD wanted a higher position in the management, when he didn’t get it, his lust for position, notoriety and power, turned into anger against MPD. This of course created many problems, eventually forcing MPD to expel him from the temple. Ever since then, VKD has had a vendetta against MPD. He will stop at nothing to get his revenge, as has been the apparent case over the last ten years. After VKD was expelled from ISKCON Bangalore, he would make regular visits to the temple to talk with devotees on an individual basis. In those conversations VKD would plant so many seeds of lies, distrust and envy about MPD. Unfortunately he is very good at spreading lies and envy, about 30 devotees ended up leaving the temple due to his insidious, dishonest and envious nature. Once the word got out about what VKD was doing, the management banned him from coming onto the temple premises. After this resolution was made, VKD came to the temple one day, but was denied access. He pleaded he had a right to take darshan, but his pleas were denied. Instead of accepting the ban, VKD laid down in front of one of the gates, blocking vehicles from exiting/entering. Security tried to verbally subdue him, but it was to no avail. Eventually security had to physically remove him, literally picking him up by his limbs and carrying him off. He was not beaten, many witnesses can attest to this fact. This event is Syamakrsna dasa idea of a beating. We can only imagine how he has manipulated his others claims of a false case against VKD and supposed threats towards Ananda Tirtha dasa. Why do people make all this gossip without actually substantiating their claims?

Syamakrsna dasa continues in his next paragraph to say that MPD ‘minions’ are behind a plot to “taking out the GBC and killing Jayapataka Svami and Radhanatha Svami.” He tries to substantiate this preposterous accusation by, again, another unsubstantiated claim. This time from a Sampradaya Sun article, by an ‘anonymous author’ who calls himself Yamuna Sunrise. What SyamaKrsna dasa fails to realize is that this so called-‘anonymous author’ is a convicted felon with a history of mental problems. I personally know ‘Yamuna Sunrise’, and to take his word on anything is like trusting a pedophile to baby-sit your kids. Jivahimsa.com has a nice article to substantiate what I’m saying.

SyamaKrsna dasa goes on to state that MPD should surrender in a humble way. Surrender to who? The ‘GBC’? The trail-mix of voted in Gurus? Why should anyone surrender to someone who isnt’ bona-fide? Does SyamaKrsna dasa read Srila Prabhupada’s books? Does he know what a bona fide spiritual master is? Does he know the checkered history of the personalities in ISKCON? Has he ever read the GBC resolutions? Obviously not, otherwise how can he support these people who are actually envious of Srila Prabhupada, while fighting against someone who is actually following HDG? Below are some quotes from Srila Prabhupada juxtaposed to the GBC resolutions. Take some time to anaylze, and see if you can make some sense of it:

Unfortunately, when the äcärya disappears, rogues and non-devotees take advantage and immediately begin to introduce unauthorized principles in the name of so-called svämés, yogés, philanthropists, welfare workers and so on. […]The äcärya, the authorized representative of the Supreme Lord, establishes these principles, but when he disappears, things once again become disordered. The perfect disciples of the äcärya try to relieve the situation by sincerely following the instructions of the spiritual master. (SB, 4.28.48, purport)

-1978, MARCH 19, 9:30 am: [GBC resolutions]The GBC will consider each year at Gour Pornima the appointment of new Spiritual Masters to be approved by a 3/4 vote. However, for 1978, no new Spiritual Masters shall be appointed other than the 11 selected by Srila Prabhupada.

One cannot be stamped mahätmä by votes. The standard for mahätmä is given in Bhagavad-gétä: the mahätmä is he who has taken shelter of the superior energy of the Lord. (Rajya-Vidya chp4. Knowledge by way of the Mahatmas, great Souls)

Don’t misunderstand. “I stamp you mahätmä by votes, and you become God. You become mahätmä.” These are not accepted in Bhagavad-gétä. (BG lecture 9.11-14 NY, Nov. 27^th, 1966)

-1981, March 6^th : [GBC resolutions]ISKCON Law (amendment to):[to law #1, meeting #7 of 27.3.78]11. That a GBC committee will be formed, consisting of the GBC members who are initiating Gurus. They have the power to nominate new initiating gurus, by consensus. Any nomination shall be forwarded to the governing body commission for their confirmation.

But if the people are given for nomination, as it is the practice now, by vote, then ordinary people, they are all rascals What is the value of their vote? Therefore another rascal is selected. Because one who is voting, he is a rascal. He does not know whom to give vote.(SB1.16.11 lecture, Los angeles, Jan. 8, 1974)

“So cats and dogs, they’re voting. So what they will vote, cats and dogs? They will vote another big cat, big dog, that’s all. So what the big dog, big cat can do? That is described in the Çrémad-Bhägavatam”. (SB lecture, Sep. 15 1972)

-1981, March 6^th: [GBC resolutions] BC Rule. (Amendment) 40. The governing body commission shall appoint GBC members or change members (in extreme circumstances) .Apart from the governing body commission’s own members, no one shall nominate or select. The governing body commission members are permanent.

Note what Srila Prabhupada writes in the Direction of Management(DOM,) it says:

2. His Divine Grace will select the initial 12 members of the GBC. In the succeeding years the GBC will be elected by a vote of all Temple presidents who will vote for 8 from a ballot of all Temple presidents, which may also include any secretary who is in charge of a Temple. Those 8 with the greatest number of votes will be members for the next term of GBC. Çréla Prabhupäda will choose to retain four commissioners. In the event of Çréla Prabhupäda’s absence, the retiring members will decide which four will remain.

3. The (GBC)commissioners will serve for a period of 3 years, and they may be re-elected at the end of this period.

Note:

The GBC have never allowed an election to take place, ever. In fact the DOM was never implemented by the GBC, to the dissatisfaction of Srila Prabhupada. However, ISKCON Bangalore implemented the DOM in October of 2008, I know because I was witness to it.

-1982, FEBRUARY 27: [GBC resolutions] 1. That all GBC be nominated as candidates to become initiating Gurus with the requirement that they receive the blessings of 3/4 (three fourths vote) of the GBC members present to begin their initiating role. There after the individual GBC men who are initiating will be responsible for recommending new candidates for initiating Guru from the godbrothers within their zone. These names must then receive the blessings of 3/4 (three fourths) of the majority of the GBC present at the annual meeting for them to begin their initiating roles.

Mundane votes have no jurisdiction to elect a Vaiñëava äcärya. A Vaiñëava äcärya is self-effulgent, and there is no need for any court judgment. (CC Madhya-lila, 1.221)

-1987, March 16^th: [GBC resolutions] That ISKCON guru daksine is the property of ISKCON to be used for the benefit of the Krsna Consciousness Movement. Therefore such daksine is to be kept in a special account, preferably an ISKCON account, with at least two signatures Account records are to be kept. (P/O)

Note:

Do they keep accounting records for the guru daksine? Really? Can anyone request to see them? Shouldn’t guru daksine be transparent for all to see? They have nothing to hide, right? Why wouldn’t it be in an ISKCON account? Gurus (mostly sannyasis) shouldn’t have a personal account, so where is all the guru daksine being kept. How is it being spent? You fanatic followers of the Guru Business Corporation should actually inquire, you will be unpleasantly surprised.

When Srila Prabhupada was still manifest on the planet, 90-plus percent of his disciples where temple residents, without jobs. Compare that to the current plethora of ISKCON Guru and their disciples, in which over 90+ percent of the guru’s disciples live outside of the temple, working mundane jobs. This brings a whole new light to the meaning of the acronym G.B.C. It no longer means Governing Body commission, but instead means: Guru Business Corporation. Let’s make a quick case study of one of the prominent ISKCON guru’s, Radhanatha Swami. Radhanatha Swami has at least 5,000 disciples, the majority of them working outside of the temple. On the conservative side let’s say the average guru daksine(donation) over a year, totals to 500 U.S. dollars. Multiply that by 5,000 disciples, and you get: 2.5 million U.S dollars, and that’s a conservative figure. Recently, one of Radhanatha Swami’s disciples donated to him 108 crowes of rupees, which is about 22 million U.S dollars! Taking into account the large amounts of money these Gurus are racking in, why is ISKCON struggling to maintain its properties-selling this farm, and that farm, closing down this temple or that one(Costa Rica farm, Spain’s farm, Germany temples, etc) Why aren’t there world-wide prasadam programs going on? Why aren’t the books being flooded into every town and village if these gurus are getting that much ‘guru ‘daksine!??! Where is the growth of ISKCON, if these gurus are getting so much money!?!? Can we see the accounts? Why do ‘gurus’ and sanyasis have private bank accounts!?!?

Such a pseudoVaiñëava associates with money and women and is jealous of successful Vaiñëavas. Although passing for a Vaiñëava, his only business is earning money in the dress of a Vaiñëava. Bhaktivinoda Öhäkura therefore says that such a pseudoVaiñëava is not a Vaiñëava at all but a disciple of Kali-yuga. A disciple of Kali cannot become an äcärya by the decision of some high court. Mundane votes have no jurisdiction to elect a Vaiñëava äcärya. A Vaiñëava äcärya is self-effulgent, and there is no need for any court judgment. A false äcärya may try to override a Vaiñëava by a high-court decision, but Bhaktivinoda Öhäkura says that he is nothing but a disciple of Kali-yuga. (CC Madhya-lila, 1.221)

-1982, FEBRUARY 27: II) Qualifications of an acarya in ISKCON according to 1982 GBC resolutions: He recognizes the GBC as the ultimate managing authority in ISKCON

Since when does an actual acarya have to acknowledge a governing body to validate his status as a self-realized soul, free from envy, lust and anger and the four human defects?

–1983, March 16^th: [GBC resolution]-That at every ISKCON temple there must be a Vyasa asana for the temple’s initiating Guru(s) and their pictures must be displayed, [on vyasasana and alter] and regularly offered Guru-Puja.

I wish that each and every Branch shall keep their independent identity and cooperate keeping the Acarya in the centre. On this principle we can open any number of Branches all over the world. The Ramakrishna mission works on this principle and thus as organization they have done wonderfully. (SPL to Kirtanananda-Feb. 11^th, 1967)

1985, February 27: [GBC resolution]- A GBC vote on adding an initiating guru requires a quorum of 3/4 months of the GBC Body to be present. To be approved, a candidate must receive a vote of 2/3rds of the (members present at that meeting).

Guru means who follows the predecessor, authorized predecessor. He is guru. Not that everyone is guru. So therefore we have to follow the superior order. Then we become guru, not that by cheating others we become guru. No. That is cheater. That is not teacher. Guru means who is following the superior order. The superior order is Kåñëa or His representative. (SP lecture SB 3.25.32-Bombay, Dec. 2,1974)

Prabhupäda: Yes. What can be done? Cheaters there are. If you want to be cheated, who can save you? He has made guru without asking his guru. He submits to others. Then how we can save him?

Tamäla Kåñëa: What does that do to his relationship with his own spiritual master?

Prabhupäda: Eh?

Tamäla Kåñëa: How does this affect his relationship with his…?

Prabhupäda: They don’t care for his own spiritual master.

Tamäla Kåñëa: But what…? That means their relationship is spoiled.

Prabhupäda: Yes. Guror avajïä, aparädha.

Tamäla Kåñëa: Aparädha.

Prabhupäda: And Caitanya Mahäprabhu has advised, “Save yourself from aparädha.” Some aparädha, and they are going away, just like Nitäi. Guror avajïä. (Conversation: Bogus Gurus—4/25/77, Bombay)

-1985, March 1^st : [GBC resolutions]: for initiating gurus: In general anyone who is recommended to the GBC Body to become initiating guru shall have worked in an area for at least 3 years, and have the recommendation of the local GBC Zonal Secretary, National Secretary, Regional or State Secretary, local Presidents or Temple leaders, as applicable.  The recommendations of the Zonal leaders should be submitted in confidential letters to the GBC officers.

Prabhupäda: That is the difficulty. Everyone sees that “Some way or other, I become guru. Then so many persons will offer me respect. Somehow or other, create some situation. Then I become guru.” This is going on. Not bona fide guru.(Room conversation—May 2, 1976, Fiji)

-1985, March 1^st : [GBC resolutions] When the GBC Body gives their blessings to a candidate to initiate, it is for a particular guru-datta-desa.  If the candidate wants to later change his area, his initiating functions shall again be reviewed and considered by the GBC Body under the conditions set down in the previous resolution. This establishes the GBC Body in in its position as the ultimate managing authority of Iskcon.

How does creating a system of voting in someone to be guru, establish the ‘GBC Body’ as the ultimate managing authority? Actually in truth, it establishes the ‘GBC Body’ as the ultimate deviation of ISKCON!

Prabhupäda: Yes. You are not guru, you are goru. Goru means cow. Sa eva go-kharaù. You are not guru. You are speaking against Kåñëa so you are not guru. Guru is Arjuna. Because a confidential instruction is given to Arjuna, so we accept Arjuna as guru. Or one who is following Arjuna, he is guru. Arjuna has accepted Kåñëa, paraà brahma paraà dhäma pavitraà paramaà bhavän [Bg. 10.12]. You accept Kåñëa as paraà brahma. You want to become paraà brahma. You are cheating people. You do not say Kåñëa is paraà brahma, but you are replacing Him. Then you are cheater, you are not guru. (Room conversation—12/26/76, Bombay)

-1985, March 1^st : [GBC resolutions] All disciples must offer Gurupuja daily to their spiritual master.

-1987, March 16^th: [GBC resolutions] That the GBC recommend that Srila Prabhupada be glorified in kirtan only by the words, “Jaya Prabhupada” and not “Jaya Jagat Guru Srila Prabhupada” or “Jaya Gurudeva.”  (Law of ISKCON)

[A.{90} Prohibition Order Against the Posthumous Ritvik Theory]

Whereas the posthumous ritvik theory (a concocted system by which a spiritual master allegedly acts as diksa guru after  his departure through the agency of ritviks or officiating ìpriests) has never been sanctioned by His Divine Grace A.C.  Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada;

How has it never been sanctioned by Srila Prabhupada? He sanctioned the system while he was on the planet, and he sanctioned it with the July 9^th letter, by signing it. He states in the letter: “Temple Presidents may henceforward (the dictionary definition: from now on; from this point forward) send recommendation for first and second initiation to whichever of these eleven representatives (not acaryas, or diksa gurus) are nearest their temple. July 9^th letter signed by HDG Srila Prabhupada

If one always follows the orders of the spiritual master, there is no question of falling down. As soon as a foolish disciple tries to overtake his spiritual master and becomes ambitious to occupy his post, he immediately falls down. Yasya prasädäd bhagavat-prasädo yasyäprasädän na gatiù kuto ‘pi **. If the spiritual master is considered an ordinary man, the disciple surely loses his chance to advance further. (SB 5.12.14 purport)

-1987, March 16^th: [GBC resolutions} That the following devotees are authorized by the GBC body to initiate disciples: Bhakti Caru Swami, Kavicandra Swami, Trivikrama Swami, Prabavishnu Swami, Shivaram Swami. Bhaktibusana Swami, Smita Krsna Swami, Rohini Suta das, Sacinandana das, Krsna Ksetra das,  Avinas Candra das, Astaratha das, Prahaladananda Swami

The first thing, I warn Acyutananda, do not try to initiate. You are not in a proper position now to initiate anyone. Besides that, the etiquette is that so long the Spiritual Master is present, all prospective disciples should be brought to him.[…} Don’t be allured by such maya. I am training you all to become future Spiritual Masters, but do not be in a hurry.{…} So for the time being, hold Kirtana. as I have advised above, and speak from Srimad-Bhagavatam, Bhagavad-gita, and try to serve the cause of the Krishna Consciousness society. You don’t be attracted by such cheap disciples immediately. One has to rise gradually by service. (SPL to Acyutananda, Jaya Govinda, 8/21/68)

Those possessing the title of Bhaktivedanta will be allowed to initiate disciples. Maybe by 1975, all of my disciples will be allowed to initiate and increase the numbers of the generations. That is my program. (SPL to Hamsaduta, Jan. 3, 1969)

Note:

This was a hopeful aspiration of Srila Prabupada, but we know that within a few years he knew know one was qualified to succeed him. In the conversation below TGK, admits that none of HDG’s disciples are qualified to be guru. Srila Prabhupada makes VERY important statements, saying you become Guru when you become qualified and when he (SP) authorizes.

Prabhupäda: No, you become guru, but you must be qualified first of all. Then you become.

Tamäla Kåñëa: Oh, that kind of complaint was there.

Prabhupäda: Did you know that?

Tamäla Kåñëa: Yeah, I heard that, yeah.

Prabhupäda: What is the use of producing some rascal guru?

Tamäla Kåñëa: Well, I have studied myself and all of your disciples, and it’s clear fact that we are all conditioned souls, so we cannot be guru. Maybe one day it may be possible…

Prabhupäda: Hm.

Tamäla Kåñëa: …but not now.

Prabhupäda: Yes. I shall choose some guru. I shall say, “Now you become äcärya. You become authorized.” I am waiting for that. You become all äcärya. I retire completely. But the training must be complete.

Tamäla Kåñëa: The process of purification must be there.

Prabhupäda: Oh, yes, must be there. Caitanya Mahäprabhu wants that. Ämära äjïäya guru haïä [Cc. Madhya 7.128]. “You become guru.” (laughs) But be qualified. Little thing, strictly follower…

Tamäla Kåñëa: Not rubber stamp.

Prabhupäda: Then you’ll not be effective. You can cheat, but it will not be effective. Just see our Gauòéya Maöha. Everyone wanted to become guru, and a small temple and “guru.” What kind of guru? No publication, no preaching, simply bring some foodstuff… My Guru Mahäräja used to say, “Joint mess,” a place for eating and sleeping. Amar amar ara takana (?)(Bengali): “Joint mess.” He said this.

I hope this exercise of comparing and contrasting has cleared up Syamakrsna dasa’s misconceptions about who these people are; parading themselves as followers of HDG Srila Prabhupada, while misleading people to surrender to them, under the self-imposed authority of the ‘GBC’. These GBC’s and ‘gurus’ have artificially put themselves between you and Srila Prabhupada. If you care to recognize, everyday HDG’s sabda is feeding us, yet the ‘GBC’ tells us to worship someone else! We are under Srila Prabhupada’s authority; he is a perfectly realized soul-Jagat guru, let us surrender to him, as MPD and many others have done.

Syamakrsna dasa writes in his article: “Oh so Madhu Pandit Dasa says he is ready to serve under the GBC and obey all their commands, really? The GBC’s first command is that Madhu Pandit Dasa and his gang pack their bags and leave HKH with nothing more than their declared possessions as mentioned on Madhu Pandit’s site Struggle for Truth. Madhu Pandit Dasa can then practice whatever philosophy he wants to anywhere in the world. When I see Madhu Pandit Dasa leave I will believe you, until then I don’t.”

Syamakrsna dasa, where have you left your brain? Did you even read MPD’s peace proposal, or did you just fail to actually understand it? MPD is willing to follow the GBC if they agree to the terms he has proposed, not that he will foolishly accept a post-dated check. Only an ignorant person will blindly follow; so when your ready Syamakrsna dasa, we will be more then happy to lend you a hand, to pull you out of the ditch you have been blindly led into. Try reading this article, it might help clear up your misunderstanding if the above compare and contrast ‘life-line’ didn’t penetrate into your consciousness.

Syamakrsna dasa tries to leave the impression that MPP is trying to further delay a 10 year on-going court case that is costing thousand upon thousands of dollars. If Syamakrsna dasa hasn’t noticed, MPP has been helping to feed prasdam to 1,000,000 children a day, and implementing various other preaching programs, according to Srila Prabhupada’s desires. Aksaya Patra’s output tripled from 2004 to present!

Prabhupäda: Yes. That will depend on your purified preaching activities. If you again become materially victimized, then you cannot do it. If you remain on the spiritual platform, if you try, then it will increase. Änandämbudhi-vardhanam. It will increase. As soon as there is any contemplation of sense gratification, then the spirit will be lost.

. Why would someone dedicated to serving Srila Prabhupada’s preaching mission want to waste his time and Srila Prabhupada’s resources on a court case? Why should we take you or anyone else’s envious words to heart? What have you sajiya disciples produced in the terms of successful preaching? Have you accounted where all the guru daksine has gone? Have ever bothered to ask your ‘GBC/Guru’ masters to show you any accounting for that money? Do you think you can learn to feed yourself, instead of always consuming the spoon fed fast-food, of the Guru Business Corporation? Can you and VardaKrsna dasa stop spending time and resources on trying to stop the successful preaching of MPP and ISKCON Bangalore? If you don’t believe that Srila Prabhupada left a ritivk order so that anyone who comes into ISKCON can have the mercy of an actual pure devotee, fine, go and continue your worship of the GBC’s 2/3 voted in guru lineage. But please stop attacking ISKCON Bangalore preachers!

Read the following quotes and then take a moment to reflect on what your doing Syamakrsna dasa, and anyone else attacking the preaching efforts of ISKCON Bangalore. You then might have an actual realization of what you’re doing, so help you God!

So far the Christian preachers are concerned you may ask them to leave the Temple and address them like this – If you have to preach your Christian philosophy, why don’t you ask people to come to your place? Why do you come here and disturb? Our Temple is especially meant for preaching Krishna Consciousness. In the world there are different philosophies and they have got their own temples also, long before our Temple was opened. There are places of worship of the Jews, of the Christians and of many other sects. They have got their different camps. Why do you come here and create disturbance? (SPL to Madhudvisa, 1/26/70)

“So demons are always disturbing. They’ll create disturbance. That is… Their business is to create disturbance in the creation of the Supreme Lord. So this Hiraëyäkña and Hiraëyakaçipu, two brothers, they were creating so much disturbances. The whole world is disturbed only for the existence of the demons, asuri. At the present moment also, the world is full of demons. The devotees, their number is very, very small. Just like our Krsna consciousness movement. We can count within the finger how many we have got, Krsna conscious; but demons, non-Krsna conscious, nondevotees, there is no limit…”

(Çrémad-Bhägavatam 1.3.7 Los Angeles, September 13, 1972)

Just like Lord Jesus Christ. He was crucified by the demons. The only fault was that he was God conscious. Just see; such innocent person. The world is like that. So these dangers are there, but don’t be afraid of. Krsna will save you. And tolerate. If there are disturbances… Because it is the nature of this material world, as soon as there will be devotee, God conscious person, there will be so many enemies from the side of the demons. So we have to tolerate. (Çrémad-Bhägavatam 1.3.7 Los Angeles, September 13, 1972)

–Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare-

Srila Prabhupada on Standard of cooking for Prasadam Distribution

Yesterday, in our article, “Akshaya Patra-Bhoga or Prasadam?-1” we discussed the reasons why Akshaya Patra is serving 100% prasadam as aopposed to Varada Krishna & co.’s envious remarks that it is not. We also promised that subsequently we will share with you various research notes we base our conclusion on. Here is what Srila Prabhupada says about the subject, gotten from the Vedabse.

Srila Prabhupada mentions in many places that the cooking should be done by second initiated brahmanas:

In the kitchen also, things should be kept spotless and cooking should only be done by brahmanas; others may assist. That is the same procedure followed with Deity worship. [Letter to: Laksmi Narayana, Los Angeles, 8 July, 1971]

Regarding the prasadam, I never approved Mr. Malkani cooking in the temple. He is not initiated. Of course he is Hindu, but he went there to start his business. But, he is not initiated to cook in the temple. Any paid cook is not desirable. Who was cooking formally? He wanted to start his business, not to be engaged by us. The independent cooking done in the temple kitchen is not good. [Letter to: Kirtanananda,,Bombay, 23 November, 1974]

Regarding the cooking, a non-brahmana may assist but he cannot cook. [Letter to: Sukadeva, Bombay, 24 November, 1974]

Unless one is initiated they cannot cook. They must be regular disciples then they can do Deity worship. So there is no question of the outsiders cooking in the New Delhi temple. [Letter to: Gopala Krsna, New York, 11 July, 1976]

But with respect to mass distribution, there are also instructions to employ professional cook, at least in India:

In the evening, you must have many varieties of first class ghee-cooked preparations offered to the Deity and you can sell the prasadam. The L.A. standard is good, but still you should have a better standard. You should make kacoris, samosa, etc. If it is required, a professional confectioner may be employed. The Deity worship must be done very gorgeously. [Letter to: Aksayananda, Dhananjaya, for Vrindavan temple, 26 May, 1975]

Give them nice prasädam by which they are attracted. It doesn’t matter khichadi, puri, kacuri, läòu. Whatever they are attracted, we must give. Whatever that will attract them. That I want. Krsna-prasädam. Don’t waste, give them nice palatable foodstuff. Give them one finest kacuri, one nice samosä, two puris, they will be very glad. Make very, very, nice prasädam. What is this rubbish, the dog cannot eat even? They have done a great mistake, all rascals. I am very angry. I say that if you have got no money, I’ll spend, I will give you money. Why should you make such tenth class, and no food at all. It is to be thrown away. Simply waste of grains and energy. Engage nice professional cook, prepare nice foodstuff. I shall spend for that if you have no money….. [Room Conversation, on Hyderabad Farm Management, December 10, 1976]

Give them prasädam, nice prasädam. Any gentleman comes, immediately there must be some prasädam. Engage first class cook. Spend money, don’t be a miserly. If you have no money, I will pay. So long I am living, I shall go on paying. You don’t be miserly. Bring devotees for eating, and then chanting, then cinema, then lecture, in this way you have to develop. [Room Conversation, on Hyderabad Farm Management, December 10, 1976, Hyderabad]

The following conversation [Room Conversation, December 12, 1976, Hyderabad] is specifically on hiring professional men for cooking, at least in India:

Prabhupäda: No uninitiated person should cook. Brähmaëa cook.

Mahämsa: What about professional cooks?

Prabhupäda: Real brähmana.

Mahämsa: Professional cooks?

Prabhupäda: Profes…? They are brähmanas.

Mahämsa: Yes, but they… Even though they are brähmanas, they have this habit of smoking, and if we try to find a professional cook who doesn’t smoke, it is very difficult.

Prabhupäda: Hm. As far as possible, our men should cook, a professional man who is in good habit, who has promised that they will not do this smoking. We have to manage somehow.

Mahämsa: As far as our devotees’ cooking, it’s practically impossible. We have tried so hard. They just can’t do it. Yesterday two of the boys tried to help, and the rice was not cooked because it was not done and he burned his leg. The water fell on his leg, and he couldn’t handle the pots properly and he got… Now the poor boy, he is suffering. He’s got a wounded leg, one of the German boys, the one with long hair. So our devotees, they are not… This boy, Bengali boy, Divid (?), he’s good. He can do it but he needs at least four or five men to help.

Tejas: He was a professional cook but he’s not… He can’t do it himself. He needs too much…

Mahamsa: He needs at least four people to help. It’s a big cooking, so it’s also very difficult for one man to do and nobody wants to help the cooking because it’s so hot, the smoke goes in the eyes and it’s very troublesome. So nobody wants to help in the cooking, devotees.

Prabhupäda: Not willing. They are not willing.

Mahämsa: They’re not willing to help in the kitchen because it is very hot, very hard, the eyes get burned, things like that. So this one Bengali boy, he’s a very good cook. He can do it very nicely but he wants help. And if no one helps, then he refuses to cook. And if you press him, then he runs away. Yesterday he tried to run away four times because we were trying to press him.

Prabhupäda: No, no, cooking alone, it is not possible. So that you have to do. Find out some men. Cooperate. Otherwise how it is possible?

Haàsadüta: Yes, therefore I’m asking you about hired people, whether hired people are good. In my experience…

Prabhupäda: So if they are, if our men not available, then you must hire, hire people. But not these carpenters or like that.

Mahämsa: No, we should get professional cooks who are really good, like this man who cooked today.

Prabhupäda: Yes. And this man is coming. He can bring.

Mahämsa: Yes, he himself will come. But he will have the habit of smoking and I think we can at the most regulate his smoking. “If you want to smoke, you go somewhere far away and smoke and before you start cooking you must wash yourself, have a bath, and then do the cooking.”

Prabhupäda: Yes. What can be done? Ne mämä che känä mämä (?) “If there is no uncle, one blind uncle is all right.” So the matter is now clear. You do it and develop it.

Another conversation: [Room Conversation, February 19, 1977, Mäyäpura]

Hari-sauri: The thing is, those men that Bhogilal sent were smoking bidis and everything.

Prabhupäda: That could be checked, that “You do not do this.” If you have to keep hired cook, so you’ll have to manage in that way. Everything depends on management. Change of menu is very good, not that the same thing should be…

So far your hired Brahmin cook, since we have our prasadam distribution program this may be necessary, but he must be clean, no smoking, and he must wear kunti beads. As far as possible he must follow our principles. [Letter to: Giriraja, For Mumbai Juhu Temple, 23 April, 1972]